1990 Honda Timing Belt Info
I put this webpage together after fixing the timing belt on my 1990 Honda Civic Si. I heard all the horror
stories about the total engine destruction when a belt goes and how it can cost you thousands of dollars. My
experience is quite different from that and only cost the amount for towing and the timing belt. The info that
I found out can easily be transferred to other models and years of Hondas.
The Timing Belt SNAPS!
I was driving at 120 km/hr (70 mph) when the engine died, there wasn't a sound - nothing. It was as if someone had
turned off the key. I looked down at the tach and it was showing 0 rpm (first clue) which didn't make any sense to me
at the time. I immediately put the clutch in and the tranny in neutral and coasted to a stop on the shoulder.
BTW, putting your car in neutral is good practice when something goes wrong and you don't know what it is.
Troubleshooting
After a few phone calls and a ride back to town, my Dad and I grabbed some tools and headed back for some troubleshooting.
The engine turned over very fast and was making an odd soft pinging sound. No spark, so we took off the distributer cap
and took a look. The high voltage connector on the ignition coil was very corroded and looked like a suitable
candidate for the problem. I replaced the coil with a new one (more on this fiasco farther down!) and turned the engine over. No spark still.
I had just replaced the ignitor (ignition control module) about 4 months ago and I thought that maybe that was
the problem. I asked my Dad to turn the engine over with the distributer cap off and right away saw that the
rotor wasn't turning - this meant timing belt!
Cam Timing Mis-information!
After having the car towed home to my garage, I purchased a new timing belt and put it on. I ran into
two major problems while changing the timing belt. The first was the lack of documentation available for the
1.6L Si engine and the second: getting the damned crankshaft bolt off.
1.6L vs. 1.5L Cam Timing
The 1.6L cam timing marks are located at roughly 7:00 position on the cam gear. There is a small white arrow on the lower
timing cover and a small line on the cam gear. A red circle points it out on the picture.
Red circle shows correct cam timing marks
The manuals that I had indicated to use 1.5L timing marks which are the yellow circled UP letters and the yellow
highlighted horizontal lines. On a 1.5L engine, the horizontal lines are to be lined up with the top of the cylinder
head. When I tried to line up the horizontal lines on my 1.6L, I couldn't get the horizontal lines to line up. I
was always one tooth off which just happens to be 18 degrees (more info on timing farther down). Thanks to the newsgroup alt.autos.honda for the correct
info on the timing marks.
Checking for bent valves!
Once the timing belt was installed, I removed the sparkplugs and ran a dry compression test - 125 psi in
all cylinders. This indicates that the valves are seating properly and aren't bent! I had quotes of $900 for
a rebuilt head. So much for the horror stories of interference engines!
Note: At the bottom of this page is information on compression testing
Removing the crankshaft bolt- Oh the HORROR!
The problem is to stop
the crankshaft from turning. Here's a bunch of methods that don't work:
- Jam a screwdriver in the flywheel teeth - screwdriver slips
- Use the starter motor to loosen the bolt once your wrench is secure
(strips flywheel teeth)
- Put the car in gear and emergency brake on - your complete drivetrain
play is actually quite springy
- Have a friend step on the brakes while you do the above.
- Use an air hammer _ probably damage something in the engine,
drivetrain and your ears with all that pounding
- Heat bolt with a blowtorch for temperature cycling - probably end up
melting rubber seals like the crankshaft seal and harmonic damper.
- Try to secure crankshaft pulley to part of the suspension which moves
up and down for some reason ...
What worked for me:
After taking off the left front wheel (driver's side) and plastic shrouding:
On the front pulley there were 6 holes. I found a 2 inch long bolt that
fit into one hole, skipped a hole and put another 2 inch long bolt in
it. Just over 1 1/2" of the bolts stuck out from the pulley.
Looking at crankshaft pulley from driver's wheel well - showing bolts in holes
I placed a 2 foot long 1" dia steel bar (whatever was handy) between the
bolts up against the pulley and the frame so that when the pulley
turned, one bolt pressed on the top of the bar and one pressed on the
bottom. The bar was long enough that the other end touched the frame.
When the pulley was turned, the bar was jammed between the 2 bolts and
the frame preventing rotation of the pulley. (this took 3 hours to
figure out!)
Looking from the top at the crankshaft pulley (top of pix) and the bar jammed against the frame (bottom of pix)
Accessing the balancer bolt
Two 10" long quality 1/2" drive extensions resting on a spare jackstand
After breaking 3 cheap 1/2" drive extender bars, I bought two 10 inch
long 1/2" drive extender bars (lifetime warranty) so that I could put a
breaker bar outside of the fender. I set a spare car jack so that the
breaker bar end of the extenders rested at the same height as the
crankshaft bolt so that it would keep all the torque in the right
direction and not twist out of place while turning. 5 feet of pipe on
the breaker bar and a hefty pull and the bolt turned. Didn't sound like
a bolt turning, sounded like something major broke but it was the bolt
turning.
To tighten to 120 ftlb of torque, just reverse the steel bar so it jams
in the other direction.
What worked for David and his 1998 Honda
I've received a lot of emails mentioning that later year Hondas don't have a balancer with holes in it so they
can't jam the balancer from turning. David G. emailed me with his experience:
I was about to my wits end over that
bolt. Then I found your page,
shelled out 40 bucks for a
breaker bar, extensions and some
impact sockets, (I had an 8 foot
pipe lying around) and cracked that
guy loose with thundering snap.
I was on the end of the pipe
and had pulled it about
100 degrees when it broke loose.
I really thought the breaker bar
gave out.
Mine is a 1998, and in case you
have time you could mention on the
site that it has no bolt holes
in the balacer, so I was able
to freeze the engine with a deep
socket jammed in the flywheel
where the shifter cable goes in.
There is a little access panel there
which came off with two bolts.
I put it back on with an equally
powerfull twist in the other direction.
Turning Engine over the easy way!
Turn engine using spare bar on wheel lugs
The standard method of turning the engine to align the timing is to
screw the crankshaft bolt in and use it. Instead, if it is a manual
tranny, put the car in 4th or 5th gear and use a steel bar to turn the right
side wheel using two of the wheel studs. Kind of the reverse of how the
pulley was jammed. The wheel is off anyways and it is very easy to turn.
Another way to turn the engine over if the wheels are on the car and its a manual transmission is to put the
car in 4th gear and roll it ahead or back a little bit. Make sure the parking brake is off otherwise its a
bitch to move...
No Spark Fiasco!
After I got the timing belt in and verified that the valves were not bent. I fired the engine up. It started on the
first crank. I drove around the block and noticed that I had no power in low rpms - this indicated ignition timing.
Timing 18 degrees off?
I checked the timing with the ignition timing jumper set and found that I was 18 degrees off. Unlike traditional distributers
with vacuum advance, the computer controls the ignition timing. To disable the "vacuum advance", you jumper a
connector located next to the ECU (computer). The ECU is located on the toe board of the passenger floorboard.
I tried adjusting the timing but there was only about 5 degrees of adjustment available from the distributer's
slotted mounting holes. That's when the engine died with no spark. So far, it took one day to change the timing belt.
Timing that is 18 degrees off, indicates that the timing belt is off by one tooth - again thanks to the guys
that frequent alt.autos.honda for that information. Got the right timing marks (discussed earlier) reset the belt and nothing still no
spark.
Fixed one problem and then another shows up!
Anyways, to make a long story short, 10 days later, having worked 3-4 hours per day, I found that the new ignition coil
had bit the biscuit. During those 10 days, I checked every electrical component and all the wiring of the car, including changing the ECU,
rotor, cap, sparkplugs and ignitor 4-5 times. I knew all 10 pages of the wiring diagrams inside out - nothing made sense
cause everything worked when tested or replaced. This was particularly frustrating as my field is teaching electronics and
troubleshooting courses! Finally, I came across a Technical Service bulleting that described how
to check an ignitor and coil on the vehicle.
It said to use a dwell meter, well my dwell meter didn't like the electronic ignition so I used a digital logic
probe set for CMOS mode which is used to check microprocessors. I checked the output of the ECU while
cranking and it indicated that there were pulses. I checked the output of the ignitor and it indicated that
there were pulses going to the coil. This meant that the NEW coil that I had been relying on for the past 10
days as being good, had died! I replaced the coil for the second time and the car started perfectly.
Measuring Compression on a Honda
To measure compression, you need a compression gauge which has a hose that screws in place of the
sparkplug into the engine. Normally, you just crank the engine over about 5-7 times and read the compression
off the gauge. There's a couple of things that you need to do different for a fuel injected Honda.
- Disable the fuel pump - Before you do a compression check on a fuel injected Honda, you need to disable the fuel pump by removing
the fuel pump fuse. If you don't, raw fuel will be injected into the cylinders washing the oil off the walls.
This results in the oil rings not sealing and low compression readings. In the worst case, the rings will not
seal and you'll measure no compression as if you have broken rings or a blown head gasket.
- Foot top the floor - When cranking the engine, the gas pedal must be pushed all the way to the floor or the throttle must be
rigged fully open. This allows air to be sucked into the cylinder and compressed. Otherwise low compression
readings will occur.
Compression test readings
When performing a compression test, higher values are better. My 1990 HOnda 1.6l measured 125 psi which is pretty
close to the specs. Some high performance engines like VTECs may read 170 psi. The important point to note is
that the compression reading should be very close for each cylinder within 10 % of each other. If there is a wide
spread than that indicates that there is a problem with the bottom end and a leak down test (discussed further on this
page) should be preformed.
Wet and dry - sorry not bathing suits!
There are two compression checks made: dry and wet. The two tests are identical except that before the wet test,
a couple of shots of oil are squirted into the cylinders. You can also do static (engine not running) or
dynamic testing (engine is running) Here's a very good step by step description on how to
perform a compression test.
Curing a flooded fuel injected engine
If you suspect that your fuel injected engine is flooded. Push the gas pedal to the floor while starting.
The ECU (electronic control unit) will detect that the throttle is more than 2/3 of the way open and shut off
the fuel while starting for a period of time (I believe 15 seconds) to clear the flooded condition.
Then it will apply fuel to start the engine.
Leak down testing
Leak down testing is a great way of determining the condition of the bottom end of the engine. The basic
principle is to pressurize a cylinder and measure the rate in percentage that air leaks out. Each cylinder is tested one
at a time at top dead center during the compression stroke where the piston is at the top of its stroke
and the valves are closed.
The leak down test checks the sealing of the head gasket, valves and rings. All cylinders will leak and a
good cylinder will leak about 10%. While a well worn cylinder will leak about 20%. A leak down test will
indicate which area of the engine is problematic.
While performing a leak down test, remove all sparkplugs and pressurize one cylinder. If a high leak percentage
is noted then listen for air escaping in the following areas:
- Adjacent cylinders leaking air through the sparkplug holes - this indicates a blown head gasket between
the two cylinders.
- Dipstick hole leaking air - a little is normal, but a lot indicates bad rings
- Intake manifold leaking air - this indicates that the intake valve is not sealing or is bent or burnt
- Exhaust pipe - this indicates that the exhaust valve is not sealing or is bent or burnt
- Coolant as observed in radiator cap hole has bubbles - indicates that a there could be a blown head
gasket between cylinder and water jacket or cracked head or block. Usually a cloud of white smoke comes
out of the exhaust when the engine is run.
Here's the VFAQ (VTEC frequently asked questions)
about leak down testing with nice pictures.
Finding top dead center (TDC) for a cylinder
I found that the easiest way to find top dead center for a cylinder is to put a long drinking straw into the
spark plug hole. I've read quite a few articles and websites that say to use a metal or wooden rod. I use a
long drinking straw because their soft and can't damage the piston or valves.
I rotate the engine by hand (see previous picture just before "Spark Fiasco" section) and when the piston
is at TDC, the straw will have the least
amount located in the cylinder. You will see the straw move up as it approaches TDC and then move down as it
passes TDC.
An alternative way to find exactly TDC if you're engine is a V6 or V8 and the sparkplugs come off the side is
to use a manometer as described on my
DIY Kustom - How to find TDC webpage.
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